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04/04/2017 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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01:32:40 PM Start
01:33:40 PM Confirmation Hearings
01:48:52 PM SB80
02:39:16 PM Adjourn
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Alaska Labor Relations Agency
Board of Examiners in Optometry
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Heard & Held
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*+ SB 85 AK WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARD;FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
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        SB  80-TELECOMMUNICATIONS: DISABLED SUBSCRIBERS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration of SB 80.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:49:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SORCHA  HAZELTON,  Staff,  Senator  Mia  Costello,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, introduced  SB 80 on  behalf of the  sponsor reading                                                               
from the following prepared statement:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The bill before  you, Senate Bill 80,  seeks to improve                                                                    
     technology  and services  available  to deaf,  hard-of-                                                                    
     hearing,  and  speech  impaired  Alaskans.  This  is  a                                                                    
     provision  to  expand   the  Regulatory  Commission  of                                                                    
     Alaska's  authority to  collect  surcharges to  support                                                                    
     these  programs  beyond  current  limitations.  As  the                                                                    
     world moves  toward more mobile devices,  the expansion                                                                    
     of services  offered and of the  surcharge is necessary                                                                    
     to reflect  the development of wireless  and voice over                                                                    
     internet protocol  (VoIP) services. Page 1,  Lines 13 &                                                                    
     14  illustrate this  portion of  the bill,  and include                                                                    
     these additional telecommunication  services beyond the                                                                    
     traditional  wireline telephone.  Currently, technology                                                                    
     offered by  the Regulatory  Commission of  Alaska (RCA)                                                                    
     is  outdated and  doesn't reflect  the capabilities  of                                                                    
     the digital world.  Through this bill, the  RCA will be                                                                    
                                        st                                                                                      
     better able  to provide  for the 21   century  needs of                                                                    
     the   deaf,    hard-of-hearing,   and   speech-impaired                                                                    
     communities. In  members' packets,  you'll also  find a                                                                    
     support   letter  from   the   Governor's  Council   on                                                                    
     Disabilities and Special Education.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     To  provide   some  background,   in  the   1990s,  the                                                                    
     Legislature  tasked the  RCA with  adopting regulations                                                                    
     to  require telephone  companies to  provide access  to                                                                    
     public  telecommunication services  to these  groups of                                                                    
     Alaskans, in  the form of the  telecommunications relay                                                                    
     service or TRS. (3AAC  51) TRS system includes services                                                                    
     like   teletype  units   (TTY),  captioned   telephones                                                                    
     (CapTel),  and  video  relay.   In  addition,  the  RCA                                                                    
     provides assistance devices  like amplified phones that                                                                    
     also give  hard of hearing Alaskans  more independence.                                                                    
     During  the establishment  of initial  regulations, the                                                                    
     Commission  found the  most appropriate  funding source                                                                    
     for this equipment and service  was through a Universal                                                                    
     Access  surcharge  added  to   local  phone  rates  and                                                                    
     appearing as  a line item  on customers' bills.  At the                                                                    
     onset of  this program,  wired technology was  the most                                                                    
     prevalent, the  Alaska Relay  system is  wirelined, and                                                                    
     so  only wired  technology  was permitted  to have  the                                                                    
     surcharge added.  Today, the  program is  still limited                                                                    
     to services  like TTY and CapTel  telephones which send                                                                    
     text  over landlines.  Because of  the limitation,  not                                                                    
     only  can  the  RCA  not  add  a  surcharge  to  mobile                                                                    
     devices, but  they cannot provide mobile  technology to                                                                    
     the  disabled  communities.  Just as  hearing  Alaskans                                                                    
     have shifted from landlines to  cell phones, deaf, hard                                                                    
     of hearing,  and speech impaired subscribers  have also                                                                    
     shifted   to  mobile   technology.  Statute   currently                                                                    
     prevents the RCA from providing  these modern pieces of                                                                    
     technology. Despite  this, wirelined  equipment remains                                                                    
     more  valuable  in  Alaska than  elsewhere  because  of                                                                    
     lower internet speeds in certain parts of the state.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Passage  of SB  80  could expand  the  number of  lines                                                                    
     surcharged by  more than 990,000.  The mobile  and VoIP                                                                    
     services included in this expansion  mirror the FCC and                                                                    
     other  states  which  already  have  these  subscribers                                                                    
     contribute  to their  respective  TRS  funds. Over  the                                                                    
     last seven years  the number of landlines  in the state                                                                    
     has dropped  roughly 47%, with  a 5.7% decrease  in the                                                                    
     last year  alone. It is  because of this that  in March                                                                    
     2016,  the  surcharge  was increased  nine-fold.  There                                                                    
     were more  landlines in 1991, when  this obligation was                                                                    
     given to the RCA. At  that point, the surcharge was the                                                                    
     equivalent of $0.52/$1.04 per line.  At the moment, the                                                                    
     surcharge  is 9¢/18¢.  The amount  of the  surcharge is                                                                    
     decided on through a  public hearing process. Expanding                                                                    
     the base  of surcharge would  lower the cost  per user,                                                                    
     and still maintain the needed funding for the program.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The latest  numbers available  for TRS  technology uses                                                                    
     is for December  2016. There were roughly  4000 TTY and                                                                    
     CapTel  calls made  in  December  by the  approximately                                                                    
     1300  individuals  served  by   the  RCA.  More  modern                                                                    
     technology is  the Video Relay Service,  but only about                                                                    
     a third of Alaska's  deaf population have video phones.                                                                    
     While   this    system   was   established    to   ease                                                                    
     communication between  the deaf,  hard of  hearing, and                                                                    
     speech  impaired  communities  and the  hearing  world,                                                                    
     there are  eight times as  many calls  between impacted                                                                    
     Alaskans  as  there are  to  those  of normal  hearing,                                                                    
     making the  use of  technologies designed for  the deaf                                                                    
     and  hard of  hearing crucial  to these  communities in                                                                    
     our state.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     This  bill  expands  access to  modern  technology  for                                                                    
     Alaska's  deaf, hard  of hearing,  and speech  impaired                                                                    
     communities  by  expanding  the  devices  that  can  be                                                                    
     surcharged by  the Regulatory Commission of  Alaska. SB
     80 reflects  advances in technology,  updating statutes                                                                    
     formed in the 1990s to  encompass the mobile devices of                                                                    
     the 21st century.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:54:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS asked  the amount that must be  collected and the                                                               
expected cost to cell phone users.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. HAZELTON deferred the question to the RCA commissioner.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:55:02 PM                                                                                                                    
NORMAN ROKEBERG,  Commissioner, Regulatory Commission  of Alaska,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, stated that he  had been working on this issue                                                               
since he joined  the commission and realized how out  of date the                                                               
existing  statute is.  The primary  intention of  the bill  is to                                                               
untie the  commission's hands, starting  with replacing  the term                                                               
"telephone"  with  "telecommunications."  This  will  expand  the                                                               
number  and types  of devices  that can  provide services  to the                                                               
disabled community.  Second, the  bill replaces the  term "speech                                                               
impaired" with the term "speech disabled."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  referred to  page  1, line  14, and  explained  that the  new                                                               
language "for each telecommunications  service" expands where the                                                               
surcharge  may be  applied  to include  wireless  and voice  over                                                               
internet (VoIP).  It will significantly  increase the  ability to                                                               
collect  as  well  as  reduce   and  more  equitably  spread  the                                                               
surcharge. The bill is not intended to increase revenue per se.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Responding to an earlier question,  he said the current budget is                                                               
about $288,000 per year and the  goal is to amass working capital                                                               
of about  $300,000. The idea is  to have a consistent  and stable                                                               
source of  income to  expand the  number of  devices that  can be                                                               
provided.  He  explained  that the  program  started  with  about                                                               
297,000  landlines in  1992 and  peaked  at 560,000  in 2009.  In                                                               
December 2016,  the number  had fallen to  256,000 and  the trend                                                               
continues downward. He  noted the bill packet includes  a copy of                                                               
form  477  that  provides  a picture  from  December  2015  where                                                               
wireless amounted  to 678,000, whereas a  combination of wireline                                                               
and VoIP subscription was about 300,000.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He offered to answer questions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  said  she  became   aware  of  this  issue  when                                                               
Commissioner Rokeberg invited her to attend an RCA meeting.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked  if he has suggestions for  amendments to the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROKEBERG said  he believes the bill is close  to perfect, but                                                               
he is aware that one person has a suggestion for the bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER   asked  if  telecommunications   includes  cable,                                                               
computers and phones.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROKEBERG said  that's correct.  The statutory  definition of                                                               
"telecommunications" is found in AS 42.05.990(13).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER   asked  if  all  subscribers   are  assessed  the                                                               
surcharge or just disabled subscribers.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROKEBERG  said every landline  subscriber pays  the surcharge                                                               
and  the  services  are  provided  by  Sprint  by  order  of  the                                                               
commission.  A request  for proposal  (RFP) goes  out every  five                                                               
years  and  Sprint has  been  the  provider  for four  years.  He                                                               
reiterated  that the  problem is  that just  landline subscribers                                                               
pay  the  surcharge  and  the  number  of  those  subscribers  is                                                               
diminishing. Last year the rate had  to be increased to 9¢/18¢ to                                                               
maintain cashflow to  provide the service. Expanding  the base of                                                               
the surcharge  would lower  the cost per  user to  perhaps 4¢/5¢,                                                               
maintain cashflow, and  have a slightly larger  surplus to expand                                                               
equipment   services.  Just   this  month   they  authorized   an                                                               
iPad/tablet  pilot program  starting  in July  to expand  digital                                                               
equipment to those who need it.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:06:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MEYER asked if this could include vision impaired.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROKEBERG  said the statute  is limited  to the deaf,  hard of                                                               
hearing, and speech disabled community.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER said  he  would think  it would  impact  a lot  of                                                               
disabled people if this pertains  to internet service, cable, and                                                               
cell phones.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROKEBERG agreed  adding that the surcharge  would be confined                                                               
to   current  landlines,   wireless  and   voice  over   internet                                                               
providers. That may be too broad,  but the current statute is too                                                               
narrow.  Adopting the  definition  of  telecommunications in  the                                                               
statute  would avoid  the  problem  of having  to  return to  the                                                               
legislature for any new telecommunications  technology. He drew a                                                               
parallel to changing the chemical  composition of designer street                                                               
drugs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked if the  surcharge is on the subscriber's plan                                                               
or each phone.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROKEBERG said each phone.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  summarized his understanding that  the surcharge                                                               
for every landline and wireless phone is expected to be 4¢/5¢.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROKEBERG  said reducing the  surcharge to that amount  is his                                                               
current estimate  and the goal.  Including wireless  would spread                                                               
the cost more equitably.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:12:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  commented that the background  information in the                                                               
packet includes information  from Matanuska Telephone Association                                                               
that shows  that the  population of MatSu  has more  than doubled                                                               
since 1992 yet the number  of landlines has decreased. "It really                                                               
demonstrates how much cellphones are in use."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She  asked  him to  reiterate  how  many  cellphones are  in  use                                                               
compared to the number of landlines.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROKEBERG  said the  FCC form 477  indicates that  in December                                                               
2015, there  were 678,000 wireless  phones as opposed  to 300,000                                                               
VoIP and landlines.  He noted the letter in the  packets where he                                                               
did  a "back  of  the napkin"  calculation  showing that  900,000                                                               
lines  would generate  $432,000  per year  in  revenue, which  is                                                               
about  $32,000 more  than  is collected  now.  That is  hopefully                                                               
enough  to  implement the  tablet  program  and restart  offering                                                               
amplified phones. The goal is to reduce costs to consumers.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES asked him to clarify the numbers in the budget.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROKEBERG  said the  current budget is  $288,000 per  year and                                                               
they're  collecting  about  $400,000. The  current  surcharge  is                                                               
9¢/18¢ for  residential or a  business multiline.  The two-tiered                                                               
system makes  projected calculations  a little difficult  and the                                                               
commission is discussing whether to do away with it.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES asked  if any  telecommunication utilities  offer                                                               
just internet and  television, not phone service.  She also asked                                                               
if  the utilities  that provide  phone, television,  and internet                                                               
are required to  provide new services that support the  use of an                                                               
iPad or laptop or television.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROKEBERG clarified  that  the  RCA is  very  limited in  the                                                               
regulation it provides to the  telecommunication industry. "We do                                                               
not regulate  the internet; we do  not regulate cable; we  do not                                                               
regulate a number  of things." The RCA's  regulatory authority is                                                               
limited  to  phone  lines  in  rural areas  and  issues  such  as                                                               
"carrier  of  last  resort." The  commission  also  collects  the                                                               
Alaska  Universal  Services  Fund   and  distributes  it  to  the                                                               
carriers that meet the criteria.  Another small area of authority                                                               
is the  annualized review that  is done  in concert with  the FCC                                                               
for wireline  certification. "By  and large, generally,  it would                                                               
not  be unfair  to  say the  telecommunications  industry is  not                                                               
largely regulated by the state."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   HUGHES  summarized   that  this   legislation  requires                                                               
telecommunication    utilities    to    provide    services    on                                                               
telecommunication  devices  so it's  more  than  just a  wireline                                                               
telephone or  cellphone. It would  include a laptop and  iPad and                                                               
television.  She asked  if the  utilities  are going  to need  to                                                               
provide services  that they aren't  currently providing  on these                                                               
other kinds of devices that are not phones.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROKEBERG  clarified that the  RCA regulates the  signal going                                                               
through the  device and the  consumer selects the  device "unless                                                               
they're disabled and we're providing it for them."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:24:12 PM                                                                                                                    
DEAN GATES,  representing himself, Anchorage, Alaska,  said he is                                                               
president  of the  Alaska Deaf  Council  and he  hopes the  board                                                               
discusses and  votes to support SB  80 when it meets  this coming                                                               
Thursday. Until  then, he is  speaking for himself in  support of                                                               
SB 80. He forwarded  the bill to the 10 members  on the board and                                                               
shared  some correspondence  and received  positive feedback  but                                                               
that's anecdotal. He  agreed with the earlier  statement that the                                                               
bill is  "nearly perfect."  He emphasized  that the  Alaska Relay                                                               
system is very important for  accessibility for the deaf and hard                                                               
of  hearing community  to be  able to  call a  business, order  a                                                               
pizza or find  out flight information. "So, it  is very important                                                               
to bring the TRS system into  the digital age, which this bill is                                                               
intended to do."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GATES  said he forwarded  the bill to the  executive director                                                               
of the watchdog group, Telecommunications  for the Deaf, Inc. and                                                               
the director  sent an email saying  that the bold changes  to the                                                               
TRS  language by  the State  of Alaska  "are good."  It clarifies                                                               
three  things. One,  that it  is  telecommunication service,  not                                                               
telephone  service.   Two,  changing   the  label   from  "speech                                                               
impaired"  to "speech  disabled"  is a  better  way to  recognize                                                               
people who are  speech disabled. Three, it recognizes  the use of                                                               
devices  beyond just  the landline  telephone. He  also cautioned                                                               
Mr. Gates  to ensure  that the regulatory  body and  provider for                                                               
TRS agree that this  is what the bill is intended  to do and what                                                               
its effect will be.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He said he believes  it is wise to spread the  burden for the TRS                                                               
program among all users of telecommunication services.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:29:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GATES said despite thinking  that the bill is nearly perfect,                                                               
he has a few suggestions for  changes. Page 2, line 7, change the                                                               
language to  say, "or if  the subscriber is an  organization that                                                               
represents  or has  a principle  purpose to  provide services  to                                                               
persons  who are  deaf, hard  of hearing,  or speech  disabled as                                                               
determined  by the  commission." This  would allow  organizations                                                               
such  as Access  Alaska,  Hope Community  Services,  and SAIL  to                                                               
qualify  for  an  equipment   distribution  program.  The  second                                                               
suggestion is  to amend  the language in  the current  statute to                                                               
"people   first"   language.   For  example,   "an   organization                                                               
representing persons  who are deaf"  instead of  "an organization                                                               
representing  the deaf."  He said  he isn't  opposed to  the bill                                                               
moving  forward  as  is  and   he  appreciates  Senator  Costello                                                               
bringing it forward. He hopes to  submit a letter of support from                                                               
the Alaska Deaf Council after its next meeting.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  said her staff,  Ms. Hazelton, will get  in touch                                                               
for the exact language.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER  recalled that the statutes  were changed several                                                               
years  ago to  replace the  term "disabled  people" with  "person                                                               
with  a  disability."  She  observed that  this  bill  uses  that                                                               
terminology,  but  it seems  a  bit  archaic.  She asked  him  to                                                               
comment on the issue.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GATES  said  he  recalls  that  the  Governor's  Council  on                                                               
Disabilities  supported  replacing  throughout the  statutes  the                                                               
term  "mental  retardation" to  "a  person  with an  intellectual                                                               
developmental disability." His suggestions  today follow what was                                                               
done several years ago to use person first language.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:35:48 PM                                                                                                                    
PATRICK  REINHART,  Executive  Director,  Governor's  Council  on                                                               
Disabilities, responded to Senator  Gardner's question saying the                                                               
term "mentally retarded"  was removed from state  lexicon, but it                                                               
wasn't a comprehensive change to  people first language. The term                                                               
"handicapped" was  also removed from state  lexicon several years                                                               
ago.   He  highlighted   that  the   council  has   an  excellent                                                               
publication on its website that  explains what constitutes people                                                               
first language for different disability groups.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Reinhart  stated that the Governor's  Council on Disabilities                                                               
reviewed  SB  80 and  discussed  it  with Commissioner  Rokeberg.                                                               
Overall, they  agree with  the purpose  of spreading  the funding                                                               
mechanism  to support  the type  of services  that are  provided,                                                               
including  telecommunication  relay  service  and  the  equipment                                                               
support program  for people  who need  that support.  The council                                                               
supports the  bill and  believes that  Mr. Gates  suggestions are                                                               
reasonable.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:38:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO closed  public testimony  on SB  80 and  held the                                                               
bill in committee for further consideration.                                                                                    

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